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ABAlexander



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PostSubject: sense of smell?   02.05.08 22:45

We can surely count on the fact that all of the thinking arts - all the philosophies, etc - count on the fact, emerge from the fact, that there is the Individual.
This sense of self is the thing to be discussed.
I believe that this 'discussion' takes place in a strange nether-realm - that place dominated by language; that place an unreliable and meaningless realm without the understandings of the language used. For what makes a person? This is the subjective. The ability to think about thinking, and to be able to think about having done that, even...this is the trait - the clue to our nature and the nature of language's & communication's roles in shaping our reality, as it is disputable as to whether or not our individuality in this world is even all that significantly divergent from our energetic, primordial, psychic, even physical counterparts.
Only you can know your filthy secrets, as only I can know mine. But, I know you have them. This does not constitute a person, or a self though. I feel that selfdom exists by virtue of the inclination to Communicate - to transcend the overarching constraints of time and space.
That, I believe, is why we are here together to discuss this, as we take great pains to communicate at our best that which we find most perplexing to communicate.
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Olof Pettersson



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PostSubject: Do we really share the same sense of self?   19.04.08 23:26

There is something peculiar and especially intriguing about notions like ‘self’, ‘subjectivity’ and ‘person’. These notions seem to have a particular importance, not only because of their impact on ethics, law, politics, and on philosophy in general, but also because somehow they concern me.

Even if there is, and from ancient times has been, a profound discussion about these notions trying to capture the sense of what is means to be a self or a person, it is undeniably only I who can know this.

When we are to engage in a discussion about notions like self and person, we must therefore be aware of a quite perplexing fact, namely that when we are to explain what a self is, it is the subjective that is supposed to be the objective. The object that accordingly is to be described is the self and if this description is to contain any sense of truth it must be applicable to my own subjective point of view.

Surely we can question our own privileged access to ourselves and the discussion about how self-awareness at all is possible is an important and crucial one. Yet, me must nevertheless somehow keep in mind that the only viable criterion accessible, for what it means to be a self, is subjective, insofar as the object that is to be denominated with the word ‘myself’ still is supposed to be me.
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